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BACKGROUND:
One of the books available in the Local
and Family Histories section of
Ancestry.com is History of the Family
of Maunsell (Mansell, Mansel) by
Edward Phillips Statham (London: Kegan
Paul Trench & Co, 1917-1920). In this
book are two illustrations which depict
the quartered arms of early members of
the Mansel family:
A. On page 284 the Arms of Sir Rice
Mansel (1487-1559), blazoned as follows:
1. Mansel: Arg. a chevron between three
maunches sa.
2. Longe: Gu. a Saltire engrailed or.
3. Scurlage: Arg. three bars gu.
4. Pennard: Sa. a carbuncle arg.
5. Penrhys: Per pale indented arg. and
gu.
6. De la Mare: Gu. two lions passant
gardant in pale arg.
7. Braose: Barry of six vaire gu. and
ermine and az.
8. Fitzwalter: two bends or and arg.
9. Balun: Barry of six indented arg. and
gu.
10. Newmarch: Gu. five fusils in fess
or.
11. Bruere: Gu. two bends wavy or.
12. Cadifor of Dinawall: Sa. three
scaling ladders arg. in honour point a
spears crouel arg. gutti de sang; on a
chief gu. a tower arg.
13: Kene or Kyne: Ermine a cross patonce
gu.
14. Quartering of Kene name not known:
Az. a fesse between two chevronels or:
three eagles displayed gu.
B. On the third page following page 34,
the seal of Sir Edward Mansel (about
1529-about 1595) which is not blazoned
but whose quarterings are given.
References to be above are inserted or a
rudimentary description is given.
1. Mansel: same as 1 above
2. Scurlage: same as 3 above
3. Pennard: same as 4 above
4. Bacon: consists of 3 stars
5. Penrice: same as 5 above
6. De Breos (Braose): Lion rampant in
the midst of 6 crosses
7. De La Mare: same as 6 above
8. Nicholas: a tower (possibly part of
12 above)
9. Kyme (Keen or Kyne?): same as 13
above
10. Keem?: same as 14 above.
Obviously, there are some differences
between the two; however, it did
suggest to me that it might be possible
to develop some of the maternal lines
from the above information, in
conjunction with known genealogical
data.
MARSHALLING CONCEPTS and RULES:
Marshalling is the term applied to
developing coats of arms by the process
of "quartering" and it is governed by
some strict rules.
1. All children (male and female) of a
man possessing a coat of arms were
entitled to display those arms. Men
displayed the arms on a shield; women,
on a lozenge.
2. Male children could pass on to their
children the right to display the arms
of their father.
3 A woman could only pass on the right
to display arms if she was what is
termed a "heraldic heiress."
[A heraldic heiress is a woman who has
no surviving brothers, or descendants of
brothers. She could have sisters, in
which case all the sisters would be
"heraldic co-heiresses"]
4. It was not required that one display
all the arms which one was entitled to
display. In order to simplify a coat of
arms, it was allowable to suppress some
arms in the quartering; however, no
arms could be displayed unless all the
arms leading to that set of arms were
displayed.
5. The quarters (which could number many
more than 4) were numbered from the
upper left hand corner horizontally and
then dropping to the left side of the
next line horizontally across that line,
so that the numbers read as if one was
reading a paragraph.
6. The paternal arms were always placed
in the first quarter (and repeated in
the last quarter if necessary to balance
the shield).
7. The oldest maternal arms were placed
next (followed by any other arms
acquired from that heraldic
heiress--oldest first) and continuing
until the newest maternal arms (and any
secondary arms acquired with them) were
marshalled.
SOME HOUSEKEEPING:
1. This is a work in progress, so the
data presented has not necessarily been
verified. Various tidbits of
information are presented to stimulate
interest in the early Mansel maternal
lines.
2. It seems best to me to work backward
from Sir Edward Mansel, and his father,
Sir Rice Mansel, considering each
maternal line in turn, whether or not it
resulted in a quartering.
3. Since I am descended from the Welsh
Mansels, I shall render the surname as "Mansel,"
which is that to which I am accustomed.
There are, of course, variants (Mansell,
Maunsell, Mauncell, Mauncil, etc), many
of which will occur in the passages
quoted.
4. Abbreviations such as the following
will be used to denote the various
quarterings:
R:13Q--the 13th quarter from the
arms of Sir Rice Mansel.
E: 9Q--the 9th quarter from the arms
of Sir Edward Mansel. Part II
PART 2: THE KENE FAMILY and
its Affiliates
B. THE CHICHELEY FAMILY
[Not quartered]:
1. AGNES CHICHELEY:
a. As indicated above (see A3c),
Agnes Chicheley married William
Kene as her second husband,
being the widow of one John
Tattersall at the time of her
second marriage.
b. Agnes Chicheley is usually
named as the eldest daughter of
John Chichely, the Chamberlain
of London, and his wife, Margery
Knollys.
2. JOHN CHICHELEY and MARGERY
KNOLLYS:
a. Among the facts usually given
about John Chicheley are the
following:
(1) He was Chamberlain of
the City of London, and
(2) He had twentry-four
children.
b. British History Online
contains a cite which names John
Chicheley as the Chamberlain of
the City of London:
7 Feb., 22 Henry VI. [A.D.
1443-4], came Thomas, son of
Richard Wythyale, late
goldsmith, into the Court of the
lord the King, before the said
Mayor and Aldermen, and
acknowledged he had received
from John Chicheley, the
Chamberlain, divers sums of
money accruing to him from his
said father, from Alice his
mother, and John his brother
From: 'Folios 211-221: May
1443 - ', Calendar of
letter-books of the city of
London: K: Henry VI (1911), pp.
283-299. URL:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33727.
Date accessed: 05 November 2007.
[NOTE: Unless Thomas
Wythyale delayed some 3 to 4
years, the above item negates
the contention of Arthur
Collins in his Peerage of
England that John Chicheley
died in 1440.]
c. On a webpage compiled by
Pomala Black, the birth date of
John Chicheley is given as about
1391, and his date of death as
after 1451. She also provides a
date of 15 February 1412 as the
date of his marriage to Margaret
Knollys, as she calls her. She
mentions that some sources say
that they had 18 children.
Other sources give a number of
24 children, which, if true,
raises severe doubts in my mind
that Margaret (or Margery) was
the mother of all the children.
d. The Personal Ancestral
File of the Reynolds and Finch
family gives the following
children for the couple:
(1) Agnes Chicheley,
female, born about 1412
(2) Henry Chicheley, male, born
about 1414, died in 1490
(3) Valentine Chicheley, male,
born about 1415, died in 1462
(4) Cristiane Chicheley, female,
born about 1417
(5) Thomas Chicheley, male, born
about 1418
(6) John Chicheley, male, born
about 1420
(7) Beatirx Chicheley, female,
born about 1422
(8) Isabell Chicheley, female,
born about 1424
(9) Margaret (or Margery)
Chicheley, female, born about
1426
(10) William Chicheley, male,
born about 1427
(11) Robert Chicheley, male,
born about 1430
(12) Catheryn Chicheley, female,
born about 1432
(13) Reginald Chicheley, male,
born about 1433
(14) Philippa Chicheley, female,
born about 1434
(15) Martin Chicheley, male,
born about 1435
(16) Florence Chichely, female,
born about 1436
(17) Edith Chicheley, female,
born about 1437
(18) Elizabeth Chicheley,
female, born about 1438
3. THE HOUSE OF JOHN CHICHELEY:
a. In the book London: Being
an Accurate History and
Description of the British
Metropolis (1805) by
David Hughson, LLD there is the
following excerpt on page 266,
which describes the passing of
the house of John Chicheley to
the last named daughter above::
In HARP LANE was formerly
the house of John Cbi-
cheley, chamberlain of London,
who was son of William
Chicheley, alderman, brother to
William, archdeacon of
Canterbury, and nephew to Sir
Robert Chicheley, lord
mayor, as well as to Henry,
archbishop of Canterbury.
This John Chicheley had
twenty-four children, of whom
Elizabeth, one of the daughters,
married Sir Thomas Kiryol,
and had this house as part of
her portion. After passing
through various descents, it was
ultimately possessed by tho
Bakers Company, who still
continue it as their hall.
BAKER's HALL
is a very plain structure, the
entrance to which is under a
colonade of Ionic pillars ; the
hall or dining room, is
ornamented
with a screen of the Composite
order, in which are
two arches with handsome
carving. The north end is
decorated
with three large paintings, the
centre of which bears
the arms of the company ; on the
right side is Justice, with,
her attributes ; the painting on
the left represents St. Clement,
the patron of the company ; they
being denominated
in 1380 " Fraternitas sancti
Clementis Pistorum"
b. In a
copyrighted article on "The Cook
and the Butler" webpage, there
is another description of
the Chicheley house:
History of Bakers’ Hall at
Harp Lane
Before the acquisition of
their freehold in Harp Lane,
The Bakers Company had three
(known) halls. They were in
Warwick Lane, Dowgate and
Basing Lane.
The Hall, described in a
contemporary legal document
as the ‘great messuage… …
with the great entrance’,
was a magnificent medieval
manor house, purchased in
December 1505 in the best
part of the City, in the
centre of the thriving wine
trade. The house is
described in the minutest
detail in the Company’s
minutes and the account book
for the period (1491-1548)
where every penny lavished
on the property is recorded
as described by an
Elizabethan figure:
“The Hall stood back from
the lane, ranged around a
little paved courtyard. It
was part brick, part
timbered plaster, with a
tiled roof. A tall gable
faced the street to the
south, a garden ran
alongside to the north, and
a wing used as a warehouse
screened the rest from Harp
Lime. One entered here
through great gates on
yellow posts with a hanging
lantern, and crossed the
courtyard to a porch with a
chamber above it, jutting
out over the door that led
into the main assembly hall.
This was a spacious room
with a gallery at the south
end. The walls shone with
whitewash, the timber work
and panelling were dark red
and the chimney piece gilt.
Of the windows, barred with
iron bars painted red, one,
in the gallery, was stained
yellow and blazoned with the
arms of the Company. Rushes
were strewn on the tiled
floor, the high table at one
end was spread with a thick
cloth, and there were other
tables, painted, and
sideboards, benches draped
with covers and padded with
cushions, footstools and
iron dogs by the hearth. The
panelled gallery was hung
with pieces of painted cloth
and furnished with a trestle
table and a long settle.”
Beside the hall lay the
garden, flanked by a
white-washed wall. It had a
well-house, a bowling alley,
a stone walk and benches for
rest. A gardener came in
sometimes for eightpence a
day to cut and train the
grapevines, and to tend the
flowers - rosemary and thyme
and eglantine.
John Chicheley was
Chamberlain and had
twenty-four children one of
whom, Lady Elizabeth
Boughchier, inherited the
property. It was from Lady
Elizabeth’s executors that
the Bakers purchased the
house, moving in after the
major refurbishment in April
1506.
1506 - Celebrating 500
years in Harp Lane -
2006
c. On a website entitled "The
Map of Early Modern London"
there is a transcription by
Melanie Chernyk (Student
Research Assistant) and Janelle
Jansted (General Editor) of a
passage witten by John Stow in
his Survey of London
(1603):
And therefore to begin
againe at the Eaſt ende of
Towerſtreete,
on the South ſide, have ye
Beare lane,
wherein are many faire houſes,
and runneth downe to
Thames ſtreete. The
next is Sporiar lane,
of old time ſo called, but
ſince, and of later time named
Water lane,
becauſe it runneth downe to the
Water gate by
the Cuſtome houſe
in Thames ſtreete:
then is there Hart lane
for Harpe lane,
which likewiſe runneth downe
into Thames ſtreete.
In this Hart lane
is the Bakers Hall,
ſometime the dwelling hauſe of
Iohn Chichley Chamberlain of
London, who was ſonne to William
Chichley, Alderman of London,
brother to Willian Chichley,
Archdeacon of Canterburie,
nephew to Robert Chichley, Maior
of London, and to Henrie
Chichley Archbiſhop of
Canterburie
d. This house can be located in
the map in Section C7 (Tower
Street Ward)
4. WILLIAM CHICHELEY and BEATRIX
(or Beatrice) BARRETT (or
Barnett)
a. According to a pedigree
posted by Pomala Black (see B2c
above) William Chicheley was
born about 1364 and died in
1425. He served as Sheriff of
London in 11 Henry IV (1409-10).
b. Also according to the Black
webpage, William Chicheley
married Beatrix Barrett (born
about 1368, and died after 1400)
in about 1389. According to
WorldConnect Project posted by
Jackie Pacholke, she was the
daughter of William Barrett,
born about 1337 in Hawkhurst,
Kent, and his wife, Jane
Emplson, born in Towcester,
Northamptonshire about 1340.
The Pacholke webpage states that
Beatrix Barrett died in London
in 1411
.
c. Compiler Black reports that
according to researcher Kirk
Larson, the Chicheleys had at
least five children born between
1390 amd 1400, but only the one
whose name has been found was
John Chicheley, who
was reportedly born about 1391.
5. ROBERT CHICHELEY: THE BROTHER
OF WILLIAM CHICHELEY:
a. One of the brothers of
William Chicheley was a Robert
Chicheley,a grocer, who was the
Lord Mayor of the City of London
in 13 Henry IV (1411-12) and
again in 10 Henry V (1421-22).
He married Agnes Apudderfield
and had a daughter, Philippa,
from which Diana, Princess of
Wales, reportedly descended.
b. The following is a quote from
the book National History and
Views of London and Its Environs,
by Charles Frederick Partington
(1834), page 150:
CHURCH OF ST. STEPHEN'S,
WALBROOK.
THIS splendid specimen of
architecture, justly esteemed
the masterpiece
of the celebrated Sir
Christopher Wren, is recorded in
Dugdale's
Monastican, to the effect that
Eudo, Steward of the household
tollenry I.,
presented the living of St.
Stephen's Super Walbrook to his
newly-
founded monastery of St. John,
Colchester, in 1422.
In 1428, Sir Robert Chicheley,
grocer, gave to the parish a
plot of
ground on the east-side of the
water-course, two hundred and
eight and
a half feet in length, and sixty
feet in breadth, for the purpose
of erecting
a new church, and forming a
churchyard. In 1429, Sir Robert
Chicheley laid the first stone
of the proposed fabric on his
own account,
and a second in memory of Sir
William Slandon, of whom he had
purchased
the ground for the sum of two
hundred marks. He also gave
the additional sum of 100/., and
bore all the charges of the
timber-work,
besides covering the new
structure with lead, giving all
the timber for
roofing the side aisles, and
defraying the expences of
carriage.
c. Sir Robert Chicheley also
left several houses to the
college of Higham Ferrers,
according to the following
posting on British History
Online:
Sir Robert Chicheley, a
brother of the archbishop, Lord
Mayor of London in 1411 and
1421, left by his will several
houses in the parish of St.
Antholin to the college of
Higham Ferrers; he died in 1440.
6. HENRY CHICHELEY, BROTHER OF
WILLIAM CHICHELEY:
a. From a Wikipedia article,
Henry Chicheley was born about
1363 (in asking Pope Eugene IV
in 1443 for leave to retire as
Archbishop of Canterbury he
stated that he was in his
eightieth year) in Higham
Ferrers, Northamptonshire.
b. He was consecrated Bishop of
St. David's, which takes in much
of Wales, by Pope Gregory XII on
17 June 1408 and then translated
to the Archbishopric of
Canterbury in 1414--a poition he
held until 1443.
c. A surfeit of information is
available on him in the
Wikipedia article and other
sources on the web, so nothing
further will be added here.
7. THOMAS CHICHELEY and AGNES
PYNCHEON:
a. The parents of the three
Chicheley brothers--William,
Robert, and Henry--were Thomas
Chicheley and his wife, Agnes
Pyncheon.
b. According to the Wikipedia
article on Henry Chicheley,
Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas
Chicheley was living in Higham
Ferrers, Northamptonshire as
early as 1368, and was mayor of
the town in the 1380's.
c. Agnes Pyncheon was reported
to be a woman of gentle birth.
The Chicheleys were not rag-tag
ruffians from the hinterlands as
was suggested by their (probably
envious) critics.
8. THE ARMS OF CHICHELEY:
a. On a webpage entitled A
Glossary of Terms used in
Heraldry by James Parker
there appears a blazon of the
arms of Chicheley impaled with
that of the See of Canterbury:
Azure, a pastoral staff in
pale or, ensigned with a cross
pattée argent surmounted by a
pall of the last, edged and
fringed of the second, charged
with four crosses pattée fitchée
sable--The Archiepiscopal See of
CANTERBURY.
Impaled with argent, a
chevron between three
cinquefoils gules--Henry
CHICHELEY, Archbishop of
Canterbury, 1414-43.
b. This blazon does NOT
agree with the 14th quartering
of the arms of Sir Rice Mansel
which is blazoned: Az. a fesse
between two chevronels or: three
eagles displayed gu.
c. This is not surprising: If
John Chicheley had at least 8
sons (see B2d above), we would
not expect that Agnes Chicheley
was an "heraldic heiress."
Part III
PART 2: THE KENE FAMILY and
its Affiliates
C. THE KNOLLYS FAMILY [Not
quartered]
1. SIR
THOMAS KNOLLYS (d. 1435) and his
wife, JOAN::
a. Margery Knollys,
the wife of John Chicheley, was the
daughter of Thomas Knollys (see A2a
and A2c above), who was a Sheriff of
London in 18 Richard II (1394-95)
and Mayor London in 1 Henry 1V
(1399-1400) and 12 Henry IV
(1410-11). Robert Chichely, brother
of John Chicheley, followed John's
father-in-law, Thomas Knollys in the
mayoral post in 13 Henry IV
(1411-12).
b. Various dates are
given for the birth of Thomas
Knollys, as well as for his death.
If he was Sheriff of London in 1394
he must have been born
siginificantly earlier than 1390,
which is the date supplied in
several pedigrees. His death is
mentioned in "A Short History of the
Knolles and Frowick Families," a
webpage. researched and compiled by
Rosie Bevan, on the copyrighted
site, Brookmans Park Newsletter:
Sir Thomas died in 1435, and was
buried with his wife, Joan, in St
Antholin’s Church in the north
aisle. On their tomb was the
following epitaph.
“Here lyeth graven undyr this
ston
Thomas Knolles, both flesh and
bon,
Grocer and Alderman yeres
fortye,
Sheriff, and twis Maior truly:
And for he should not ly alone,
here lyeth wyth him his good
wyff Jone:
They weren togeder sixty yere,
And nineteen children they had
in feer;
Now ben they gon wee them miss:
Christ have there Sowlys to
heven bliss. Amen”
2. SIR ROBERT
KNOLLYS (d. 1407), the possible
father of SIR THOMAS KNOLLYS:
a. Opinions are divided as to
whether or not Sir Thomas
Knollys was the son of Sir
Robert Knollys, a famous knight
involved in the Hundred Years
War. According to the article
in the Brookmans Park
Newsletter:
Sir Thomas is said to have
been son of Sir Robert Knolles
who is mentioned in Froissart's
Chronicles and captain in the
wars against France, Spain and
Brittany under three kings
Edward III, Richard II and Henry
IV, and was buried with full
military honours in Whitefriars,
London in 1407.
His arms displayed in
the church window at North
Mymms suggest, at least,
that the family believed
themselves descended from
him.
b. An extensive biography of
Sir Robert Knollys is
provided in the copyrighted
website of The Medieval
Combat Society, in which
the name of his wife is
given as "Beverly."
However, it should be noted
that the author of the
biography has apparently
confused his son, Sir Thomas
Knollys, who was married to
Joan, with his grandson,
Thomas Knollys, who was
married to Isabel.
3. THOMAS KNOLLYS (d. 1445),
brother of MARGERY KNOLLYS:
a. He is buried alongside
his father as reported in
the article in the
Brookmans Park Newsletter:
Thomas Knolles, citizen and
grocer, son of Sir Thomas,
inherited the manor of North
Mymms but only enjoyed
possession for ten years. He
was also a great benefactor
to the church of St Antholin
in Budge Row, where he was
buried beside his father
"under a faire marble stone,
thus sometime engraven but
now quite taken away for the
gain of the brasse". The
following was the epitaph:
Thomas Knolles lyeth
undre this ston
And his wyff Isabell,
flesh and bone;
They weren togeder
nyntene yere,
And x chyldren they had
in fere.
His Fader and he to this
Chyrch
Many good dedys they did
wyrch.
Example by him ye may
see
That this world is but
vanitie;
For, wheder he be smal
or gret, All sall turne
to wormy mete.
This seyd Thomas was
leyd on Bere
The eighth day the
moneth Fevrer,
The date of Jesu Crist
truly
An Mcccc five and forty.
Wee may not prey,
hertely prey ye
For owr Soulys, Pater
Noster and Ave,
The sooner of owr peyne
lessid to be,
Grant us the holy
trinite. Amen
b. He left a will,
which is abstracted in
the same article:
Thomas Knolles, in
his will dated 7 & 8
February 1445 (PCC
Luffnam fo 30, refers to
his wife Isabel already
deceased; mentions his
son Robert (to whom he
left the manor of North
Mymms), his son Richard,
and his son John. He
mentions also his
daughter Beatrice as a
nun at Dartford; his
daughter Johanna as wife
of William Baron, and a
daughter Isabella.
c. The article follows
the descent of the
apparently eldest son,
Robert Knollys, whose
descendants allied
themselves with the
Frowick family, but of
greater interest to us
are the descendants of
the second son, Richard.
4. SELECTED DESCENDANTS
OF THOMAS KNOLLYS,
brother of MARGERY
KNOLLYS:
(from a list on
Tudorplace.com)
a. Thomas Knollys (d.
1445) and his wife,
Isabel:
(1) Richard
Knollys (b. 1414)
b. Richard Knollys (b.
1414) and his wife,
Margaret Doyley
(1) Margaret
Knollys
(2) Robert
Knollys (b. 1435)
c. Robert Knollys (b.1435)
and his wife, Elizabeth
(?)
(1) Robert
Knollys (1481-1521)
d. Robert Knollys (1481-1521)
and his wife, Lettice
(or
Catherine) Pennystone
(1) Sir Francis
Knollys (about
1514-1596)
(2) Joan Knollys
(3) Elizabeth
Knollys
5. SIR FRANCIS KNOLLYS:
a. He was the Treasurer
of the Royal Household
under Queen Elizabeth I,
and his biography
appears on several
websites, so it shall
not be reproduced here.
b. He was married to
Catherine Carey, who was
the nominal daughter of
Sir William Carey and
his wife Mary Boleyn,
sister of Queen of Anne
Boleyn. The Careys were
married in 1520 after
Mary Boleyn returned
from France, where she
was allegedly the
mistress of King Francis
I. After their
marriage, but before the
marriage of her sister
to King Henry VIII, Mary
was the mistress of the
King, giving rise to
speculation that
Catherine Carey was not
only the cousin of Queen
Elizabeth I, but also
her half-sister. Support
is reportedly given to
this allegation by a
Latin Dictionary which
was once owned by Sir
Francis Knollys as
reported in the
following abstract of an
article by Sally Varlow
in "Historical
Research," volume 80,
number 209, pages
315-323, published by
Blackwell Publishing in
August 2007:
A Latin dictionary
once owned by Sir
Francis Knollys has come
to light containing his
records of his marriage
to Katherine Carey,
daughter of Mary Boleyn,
and the births of their
fourteen children. These
previously unpublished
details (here
transcribed) strengthen
the argument that
Katherine was an
illegitimate child of
Henry VIII, born during
his affair with Anne
Boleyn's sister. Sir
Francis's handwritten
notes also reveal his
wife's remarkably
successful series of
pregnancies; and the
birth date of his
daughter Lettice -
branded a `she-wolf' by
Elizabeth I - who turns
out to be younger than
is usually claimed when
she married Robert
Dudley, earl of
Leicester.
6. LETTICE KNOLLYS:
a. As noted above,
Lettice Knollys was one
of the fourteen children
of Sir Francis Knollys
and Catherine Carey.
b. She was the second
wife of Robert Dudley,
Earl of Leicester, who
was the earlier of the
two favorites of Queen
Elizabeth I, and who was
proposed by Elizabeth as
a possible consort for
her cousin, Mary, Queen
of Scots, before Mary's
disastrous second
marriage to Lord
Darnley.
c. She was also the
mother of Robert
Devereaux, Earl of
Essex, the later of the
two favorites of the
Queen, by her first
husband, Walter
Devereaux.
[Note: In 2005, a
two-part
miniseries, "Elizabeth
I," starring Helen
Mirren, was shown on
television. The first
part concentrated on
Elizabeth's relationship
with the Earl of
Leicester, and second
part focused on her
relationship with the
Earl of Essex. The
latter was also the
subject of the old
Warner Brothers' film,
"The Private Lives of
Elizabeth and Essex,"
starring Bette Davis and
Errol Flynn.]
7. THE KNOLLYS ARMS:
a. The Medieval Combat
Society gives the
following arms for Sir
Robert Knollys:
gules, on a chevron
argent three roses of
the field
b. These arms are
not quartered in the
arms of the Mansels for
two reasons:
(1) Since Margery
Knollys had a brother,
Thomas, who had
descendants, she was not
an "heraldic heiress,"
and therefore she could
not pass on the right to
quarter these arms.
(2) Since Agnes
Chicheley was not an
"heraldic heiress"
either, she could not
pass on the right
to quarter the Knollys
arms. even if they had
been transmittable.
Part IV
PART 2: THE KENE FAMILY and
its Affiliates
D. THE "UNKNOWN" (or
possibly KEEM) FAMILY [E:10Q; R:14Q]
a. In both sets or arms,
there appears the following
quartering:
Az. a fesse between two chevronels
or: three eagles displayed gu.
b. There is no ascribed name for the
arms of Sir Rice Mansel, but those
of Sir Edward Mansel have the name "Keem."
c. Since Agnes Chicheley did not
transmit the right to quarter any
arms, the arms in question must have
come into the family either sometime
prior to the Chicheley marriage, or
with the marriage of Sir George Kene.
d. In the Index of Kent wills there
is an entry for a William Kene,
father of Sir George, and paternal
grandfather of Edith Kene with the
year given as 1467. In the same
index, there is a John Keme from
Nettlestead with a date of 1472.
Dying within five years of each
other, William Kene and John Keme
could have been of the same
generation, and so it is possible
that John Keme was the maternal
grandfather of Edith Kene..
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a.
History of Mansell, or Mansel, and
of [Other Families], by Robert
George Maunsell
b. History of the Family of
Maunsell (Mansell, Mansel), by
Edward Phillips Statham
They are in agreement, with a few
minor differences, in the most
recent generations (which I shall
cover in this email), and then
diverge. Mr. Statham gives the more
complete pedigree, so I shall follow
the one presented by him on pages
224-25 and 230-31 of the second
volume of his work:
A. Thomas Maunsell (d.
1643) (See B3)
He is reported unmarried
accoding to the Maunsell book, but
may be the one who married Katherine
Hunt at St. Dunstan's of the East,
London on 13 Jan 1638. If so, then
he was the father of:
1. Thomas Maunsell, christened on 5
Apr 1640 (St. Dunstan's of the East,
London)
B. John Maunsell of
Chicheley and Thorpe Malsor (d. 19
Oct 1625) (see C1)
Married about 1601
Katherine Ward:
1. Thomas Ward Maunsell, died 1606
2. John Maunsell of Thorpe Malsor,
died 2 May 1677 ("The Puritan")
3. THOMAS MAUNSELL of Middle Temple
(d. 1643)
C. Thomas Maunsell of
Chicheley (buried 8 Apr 1582)
Married
on 11 Sep 1567, Agnes, dau of John
Morton of Oundle, widow of William
Everall of Oundle
1. JOHN MAUNSELL of Chicheley and
Thorpe Malsor (d. 19 Oct 1625)
2. Thomas Maunsell of Derryvillane,
County Cork, died circa 1646,
married Aphra Crayford [Note: I
think this is the Capt Thomas
Mansell which figures into the Nancy
West/Faith Trueax correspondence]
3. Richard Maunsell of Woodford,
died circa 1631 married Dorothy
Mordaunt [Note: Thomas Mansel, 1st
Baronet Mansel of Margam also
married a Mordaunt]
4. Mary, wife of Matthew Conny (or
Daniel Comry)
5. Elziabeth wife of (Unknown)
Pettit
6. Martha, wife of Henry Edwards
Both books name Richard Maunsell of
Chicheley, who died 6 Nov 1559, as
the father of Thomas Maunsell. The
disparity arises with regard to the
mother and previous generations
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MARGARET FAIRFAX:
R.G.Maunsell in
his book gives Margaret Fairfax,
widow of William Sayre of
Worsall as the wife of Richard
Mansell (d. 1559) of Chicheley,
and then supplies an
elaborate ancestry for
her--including descent from TWO
sons of King Edward III (Lionel,
Duke of Clarence and John of
Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster)
2. JOAN POTTER.
Statham disagrees with him, and
he appears to be correct.
Statham says that the wife of
that Richard Mansell was Joan,
daughter of Thomas Potter of
Newport Pagnell. This agrees
with information given by John
Maunsell of Woodford ("The
Puritan"), brother of the Thomas
Maunsell of the Middle Temple,
in the Visitation of Essex
(1634).
3, A PEDIGREE from The
Genealogist, page 12ff:
[NOTE: I am copying the plain
text version, and so the
rendering may be a bit off]
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL,
H formerly of CHICHELEY, Bucks,
and subsequently, after 1622, of
THORPE MALSOR, co. Northampton,
enlarged and continued from that
entered in
The Visitation of Essex, A.D.
1634. [
N.B.—The part entered in the
Visitation is printed in
italics.]
ARMS :—Argent, a chevron between
three maunches, sable.
RICHARD MAUNSELL, of Chicheley,
Bucks, Gent., married
in or before 1538, Joane, da. of
Thomas Potter, of Newport
Pagnell,
Bucks. He was bur. at Chicheley
6 Nov. 1559.l They had issue
two sons—
I. Thomas Maunsell, of whom
below.
II. John Maunsell, of Havarsham,
Bucks, 2d son, bap. 22 Sep.
1539, married Dorothy, da. of
(—) Smyth, by whom,
besides other issue,1 he had—
Samuell Maunsell, of the Inner
Temple, Counsellor
at Law [1608] and, in right of
his wife,1 of Cos-
grave, co. Northampton; bap. 15
Sep. 1581 j1 mat.
at Oxford (Mag. Hall) 25 Jan.
1593/4, aged 12 ;
B.A., 23 Feb. 1597/8; Barrister
(Midd. Temple),
1608. He married 16211
Nightingale, da.
coheir of Edward Furtho, of Cost/rave aforesaid,
by whom he had issue EDWARD
MAUNSELL, or
MANSELL, of Cosgrave aforesaid
(died 6 Nov.
1696, aged 69), ancestor of the
family there
settled.1 He was living 1630,1
but dead in
1635, in or before which year
his widow married
Francis LONGUEVILLE, of
Cosgrave, who died
about 1646, aged about 60,
leaving issue.1 She
was living 1682.1
THOMAS MAUNSELL, of Chicheley
afsd., of Newport Pagnell,
Bucks, and of Hulcote, co.
Northampton, eldest son of
Richard
Maunsell, of Chicheley, by Joane,
his wife abovenamed, admitted to
the Middle Temple 1557;
succeeded his father 6 Nov.
1559;
married 11 Sep. 1567 1 Agnes,
widatv of William Everett [EVEHF.LL],'
da. of Johnl Moreton, both of
Oundle, co. Northampton. He was
buried 5 April 1582 at Chicheley,
aged 42 and upwards.1 His
will dat. "1581,"pr. 28 Jan.
1582/3 in C.P C. (4 Howe). The
will
of his widow dat. 4 July 1602,
pr. 29 March 1603, in C.P.C. (
21 Bolein). They had issue,
three sons and three daughters—
1 Baker's Korthamptonshire, vol.
ii,
p. 132, under " Cosgrave." It is
probable (though not certain)
that the dates of baptisms,
marriages and
burials there given are from the
Parish Register of Chicheley.
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 13
I. John Maunsell, of ivhom
below.
II. Thomas Maunsell, 2d son, now
[1634] living in Ireland,
a Sea Captain; born 62 and bap.
7 April 1577 ;l mat.
at Oxford (Mag. Hall) 10 Oct.
1594, "aged 14"; was,
as " Thomas Maunsell, of
Chicheley, Bucks, Gent. ; late
of Barnard's Inn;" admitted 14
Aug. 1599 to Gray's
Inn; settled at Derryvillane,
co. Cork, in 1609. He
married Aphra, da. of Sir
William Craford, of Mongeham
Magna, Kent, by Ann, (d. 26 May
1624), da. of JOHN
NORTON, of Suffolk and London.
In the pedigree of
Crayford, of Ampthill, among the
additional pedigrees at
the end of the Visit, of Beds,
printed by the Harleian
Society, it is said of this "
Captaine Thomas Maunsell " [
that he was] " of Vandy
[presumably The Vache in
Chalfont St. Giles] Bucks." This
apparently must have
been between 1600 and 1609. He,
who was living 5 Feb.
1641/2, on which date he was
plundered of £2,496 10s.,
is said to have, not long
afterwards, died at Gloucester,
on his journey back to Ireland.
Admon. in the Consistory
Court of Cork to his sons Thomas
and Walter Mansell,
which Thomas Mansell, being then
"of Mocollop, co.
Waterford, Gent.," enters into a
bond as to the said
admon., 20 April 1661. His widow
Aphra was probably
then dead, as most certainly she
was in or before the
next year. M.I. at Cahirconlish,
co. Limerick.3 They
had issue.4
1 Memoranda in old writing .it
Thorpe Malsor, wherein the datea
of birth
and in some cases those of
baptism of several meml>ers of
the Mannsull
family are given.
3 This monument
was erected in 1602 by her son,
John Mauusell, who
died 1685. The [dateless]
inscription thereon is as under,
" Here lyeth the
bodye of Alphra Maunsell, my
dear mother, daughter of Sir
William
Crayford, of Kent. Here also
lyeth my dear wife, Mary
Maunsell, daughter
of George Booth, of Cheshire,
and of my sister Alphra Peacock,
and of
her daughter, Anne Peacock.
Erected by me, John Maunsell
Esq. and
intended for myself & my family
this 17 of October 1662."
4 Of their two daughters (1)
Aphra, married George Peacock,
of Graig,
co. Limerick, and was buried
with her mother; (2) Anno,
married Robert
Naylor, Dean of Limerick (1639),
maternal uncle to the celebrated
Kichard (
Boyle), 1st Earl of Cork; while
of the five sons, Kichard, the
youngest,
of whose descendants, if any,
nothing is known, gave evidence
20 Aug.
1642 as to above mentioned
plundering of his father on C
Feb. previous. (
I). Thomas Maunsell, the 1st
son, was of Mocollop, co.
Waterford, and
joint administrator to his
father, 20 April 1661. He is
said to be ancestor
of the Maunsells of Plassy, Bank
Place, Ballywilliam, Oakley
Park, Caatle
Park and Spa Hill. (II). Walter
Maunsell, the 2d son, was of
Mocollop
aforesaid and joint
administrator to his father, 20
April 1661, but of his
descendants, if any, nothing is
known. (III). Boyle Maunsell, of
Gaulstown
or Kilbroney, co. Kilkenny, left
male issue which is now extinct.
(IV). John
Maunsell, of Ballyvoreen, near
Cahirconlish, co. Limerick; born
at Knock-
morne, co. Cork, and educated at
Lismore, matric. at Dublin (Trin.
Coll.).
He married firstly in 1656,
Mary, da. of George Booth. She
died before
1662 and was buried at
Cahirconlish. M.I. He married
secondly Jane, da.
and coheir of John Campbell, of
Callen, co. Kilkenny. She died
23 Jan.
1674. His will dat. 4 Nov. 1685,
pr. 4 Feb. 1685/6 at Dublin. By
his 1st 1074. t
14 PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL.
III. Richard Maunsell, of
the Inner Temple, 3d son,
bap. 7 Feb.
1579/80.1 He married, 9 May
1623, at St. Saviour's,
Southwark, Dorothy, widow of
Humphrey PHIPPS, of
London, merchant (who was
buried at St. Swithin's,
London, 18 Jan. 1620/1), da.
of Henry MORDAUNT, of
Thunderley, co. Essex, by
Susan, da. of Symon BELKNAP.
He died sip. about 1631. His
admon. in C.P.C. 13 Dec.
1631, as "of Woodford, co.
Essex, Esq.," granted to his
nephew John Maunsell; the
relict, Dorothy, renouncing.
She, probably, married, as a
third husband Richard
HASLEWOOD, of Belton, co.
Rutland, and was living
1645.
1. MARY, bap. 20 June 1568
;l married before July 1602,
(—)
CONNY, and had issue.
2. ELIZABETH, bap. 3 Sep.
1570 j1 married before July
1602, (—)
PETTIT, and had issue.
3. MARTHA, bap. 3 May 1571;!
married 24 March 1590/1,
Henry EDWARDS, and had
issue.1
70/7^ MAUNSELL, of Chichtley
afsd., afterwards of
Bromley,
co. Kent, and of Thorpe
Malsor, co. Northampton,
eldest son of
Thomas Maungell, of
Chicheley, Inj Ai/ncf, his
wife, both abovenamed',
born 9 and bap. 12 Dec.
1574;- succeeded his father
in April
1582; mat. at Oxford (Mag.
Hall) 27 Oct. 1592, aged 17
; admitted
to the Middle Temple, 1594;
Barrister-at-Law.1 He, in
1622,
purchased the estate of
Thorpe Malsor.1 He married
25 Jan. 1601/2, *
Katluirine, da. of Richard
Ward, of Hurst, co. Berks,
Esq. She
died 18 Aug. 1607, aged 28.1
He died 19 Oct. 1625 and was
buried at Bromley, aged 50.1
M.I. Will dat. 12 July 1621,
pr.
4 Feb. 1625/6 in C.P.C. (35
Hele). They had issiie,
three sons—
I. THOMAS MAUNSELL, born
1602 and died 2 April 1606.1
He is mentioned in the will,
dated April 1605 (proved
Feb. 1605/6), of Sir Richard
Ward, of Hurst aforesaid,
as " THOMAS WARD MAXCELL, my
godson."
II. John Maunsell, of whom
below.
III. Thomas Maunxell, of the
Middle Temple, 2d surviving
son,
born 15 May 1606;1 admitted
to the Middle Temple,
1626; Barrister, 1633 ; died
unm., 25 Feb. 1643, aged 36,
and was buried at Thorpe
Malsor. M.I.
JOHN MAUNSELL, of Woodlord,
co. Essex, and Thorpe Malsor
aforesaid, Barrister at Law,
1st surviving son
wife he had issue male who
inherited the Ballyvoreen,
the Ballybrood, and
other estates. By his 2d
wife he had Thomas Maunsell,
of Drombane,
co. Limerick, his youngest
son, born 1 Dee. 1673, who
was Sheriff of
co. Limerick 1715, and who
in March 1727/8, succeeded
to the estate of
Thorpe Malsor, co.
Northampton (under the will
of his cousin Robert
Maunsell) and died there 27
Sep. 1739 in his 67th year,
being ancestor,
in the male line, of the
succeeding and now [1902]
existing possessors
thereof.
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 15
Maunsell, of Chieheley,
Bromley and Thorpe Malsor,
by Katharine,
his wife, both above-named;
born 12 March 1604/5 j1 adm.
to Lincoln's
Inn, 9 Nov. 1624, his father
being then described as "of
Chieheley;"
succeeded his father in Oct.
1625; entered his pedigree
in the
Visitation of Essex, 1634.
He married 8 June 1626,1
Susan, da.
of Humphrey Phipps, of
London, merchant, abovenamed,
by Dorothy,
da. of Henry MORDAUNT and
Susan, his wife, both also
abovenamed.
He died 2 "May 1677, aged
73, and was bur. at Thorpe
Malsor.
Will dat. 21 May 1669 to 24
Nov. 1675, pr. 30 May 1677
in
C.P.C. (51 Hale)/ His widow
died 29 Nov. 1678, and was
bur.
at Thorpe Malsor. Will dat.
20 May 1677, pr. 3 Feb.
1678/9, in
C.P.C. (22 King). They had
issite, seven sons and five
daughters—
I. Robert Maunsell, 1st son
in 1(JS4; of ichom below.
II. Charles Maunsell, 3d
son, born 14 Feb. 1629,*
living 1634;
died young.
III. John Maunsell, of
London, merchant,6 3d son,
born 24 Aug.
1630.- He married in or
before 1664, Martha, da. of
(—).
He died at Edmonton, Middx.,
12 Dec. 1670.
Will, in which he describes
himself as " of the city
of London, Leatherseller,"
dat. 21 Nov. 1670, pr. in
C.P.C., 9 Jan. 1670/1, 23
June 1680 and 8 June 1689 (
7 Duke). His widow married
(Lie. Vic. Gen. 5 Feb.
1671/2, she being then of
Bow, co. Middx., about 33)
George DUKE, of Aylesford,
co. Kent, " Esq.," then
about
55 and a widower. He was
living. 1677. She died
before June 1680. They had
issue, two sons and two
daughters— (
I). ROBERT MAUNSELL, of whom
below. (
II). JOHN MAUNSELL, 2d and
youngest son, bom
about 1667 ; living a minor
in June 1680, but
of full age in June 1689. He
died s.p.,
probably before 1704, as he
is not mentioned
in the will of his uncle,
Robert Maunsell,
dated 17 Jan. 1704,
entailing the family
estates, or in any
subsequent wills of any of
the family. (
1). SARAH, born about 1664;
died unm. 10 and
was buried 17 Sep. 1684 in
her 20th year,
at Thorpe Malsor. M.I. (
2). MARY, 2d and youngest da.,
born about 1668;
was a minor in June 1680,
but of full age
in June 1689. She died unm.
and was buried
17 Oct. 1726 at Thorpe
Malsor. Will dat.
11 Dec. 1725, pr. in C.P.C.,
4 Nov. 1726 (
240 Plymouth).
5 He is described as "
merchant" in the monumental
inscription to hia
daughter Sarah.
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 17
3. SUSAN, 7 born 19 Oct.
1644 - and bap. at Thorpe
Malsor;*
mar. there 1 Aug. 1665
Edward HILL, of Rothwell
Manor, co. Northampton, who
entered his pedigree in
the Heralds' Visitation of
that County, 1681,8 and who
died 1 Aug. 1705, aged 70.
She was buried at Rothwell
29 Oct. 1731, aged 88 ; M.I.
They had issue, 19 children.
4. ELIZABETH," born 26 June
1646- arid bap. at Thorpe
Malsor.6
She is said to have mar. (—)
LF.KUI. She died before
6 Jan. 1676/7.
5. MARY/ born 12 Oct. 1648=
and bap. at Thorpe Malsor;6
mar. there 4 May 1669,
Daniel BLUNDKLL, of St. Mary
le Bow, London, whose will
dat. 5 Jan. 1674/5, was
proved 15 May 1679 in C.P.C.
(53 King). She was
living 1675, but died before
1704. They had issue.
ROBERT MAUNSELL, of Thorpe
Malsor aforesaid, 1st son of
John Maunse.ll, of (he game,
by Susan, his wife, both
above named;
born 15 Jan. 1628 ;- being
ayed •'> yearn
adin.
to Lincoln's Inn 3 Nov.
1649; succeeded his father
in May 1677.
He married 17 April 1656, at
Thorpe Malsor, Judith, da.
of Thomas
BROOKE, of Great Oakley, co.
Northampton, by Margaret, da.
of
Sir John WALTER, Lord Chief
Baron of the Exchequer.9 He
died
without surviving issue, 27
and was bur. 29 May 1705, at
Thorpe
Malsor, aged 77; M.I. Will
dat. 19 Jan. 1704/5, to 20
May 1705,
proved 18 July 1705, in
C.P.C. (121 Gee). His widow,
to whom
for her life he devised his
estates, died 27 and was
bur. 29 April
1709, at Thorpe Malsor. Will
dat. 14 July 1708, proved 29
April
1709 (293 Lane). They had
issue—
JOHN MAUNSELL, only son,
born 12 and bap. 23 Feb.
1666,
at Thorpe Malsor; died
young, 31 Dec. 1677, and was
bur. there; M.I.
SUSAN, died in infancy.
ROBERT MAUNSELL, of Thorpe
Malsor aforesaid, 1st son of
John Maunsell, of London,
merchant, by Martha, his
wife, both
abovenamed, which John was
next surviving brother of
Robert
Maunsell, the late
proprietor. He was born 1
and bap. 23 Jan.
1665, at Thorpe Malsor. He
succeeded to that estate on
the death,
27 April 1709, of the widow
of the said Robert Maunsell
(his
uncle) the last possessor.
He married, after Jan.
1704/5, his
cousin Catharine, da. of the
Rev. John COUBTMAN, D.D.,
Rector
of Thorpe Malsor, by
Catharine, da. of John
MAUNSELL, of Thorpe
Malsor, both abovenamed. He
died without issue and
intestate
10, and was bur. 12 Feb.
1716/7, at Thorpe Malsor,
aged 52 ;
M.I. His widow who, for her
life, possessed the estate
in
8 See
an account of this family of
Hill in The Genealogist, N.S.,
vol. xv (
1899).
9 Betham'
a Baronetage, 1805, vol. v,
p. 522, xinder " Brooke."
C
dower, was bur. at Thorpe Malsor
1 March 1727/8. After her death
the estate passed, under the
will of her husband's uncle,
Robert
Maunsell, dat. 19 Jan. 1704/5,10
to the testator's "cousin Thomas
Maunsell (son of cousin John
Maunsell, of Ireland, Esq.,
commonly
called Captain Maunsell) for his
life," with rem. to his sons in
tail
male. This Thomas Maunsell (who
was youngest son of Captain
John Maunsell, a younger son of
Thomas, the emigrant to Ireland
in 1609, who was a younger
brother of John Maunsell, the
purchaser,
in 1622, of the Thorpe Malsor
estate) took possession of
Thorpe
Malsor accordingly and died
there 27 Sep. 1739, in his 67th
year,
being ancestor of the Rev. Cecil
Henry Maunsell, the present
holder." [
To be continued, with copies of
extracts from parish registers,
wills
and other evidences, on which
the additions to the pedigree of
1634 havo
been mostly based.]
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The Mansell family which was from
Northampton was the Mansells of
Thorpe Malsor:
If the link comes through, this is a
page of monument inscriptions which
shows a Thomas Maunsell who is
buried in Thorpe Malsor but
apparently died in London in 1643,
aged 36 (Remember our christening at
St. Dunstan's of the East in
1640--father, Thomas Mansell;
mother, Katherine Hunt)
On page 77, this same Thomas
Maunsell is referred to as being
unmarried (but perhaps the
researcher did not know of the
marriage in London). He is the
younger son of a John Maunsell,
who died in 1625, and also had a
brother named John.
And then this John Mansell is
tied back to the main Mansell
line as a descendant of Richard
Mansel on pages 39-40 of the
same book. This Richard Mansel
is the brother of the Sir Rice
Mansel whose arms you display on
your website, and from which I
launched my project.
Perhaps your Thomas was raised
by his mother, Katharine Hunt,
in London until he left to find
his future in the colonies.
MUNSELL. Connecticut. Jacob
Munsell, Windsor. (
Northampton.) Argent, a chevron
between three maundies sable.
CREST—A cap of maintenance in
flames at the top, ppr.
MOTTO—Quod vult, vald6 vult.[Note:
the plain text rendering, which
can be copied, is not always
true to the printed form: the
charge is actually "maunches"]
These are, of course, the
Mansell (Mansel) arms and motto
("What I want, I truly want")
The indication is that Jacob
Munsell came from a family out
of Northamptonshire
A search for Thomas Mansell in
Northampton came up with the
following:
This has several references
to Mansells, including one
from a John Mansell, LLB,
concerning two sermons
preached at Northampton.
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