Maunsell family research notes -thanks to Doug

 

 
 
BACKGROUND:
 
One of the books available in the Local and Family Histories section of Ancestry.com is History of the Family of Maunsell (Mansell, Mansel) by Edward Phillips Statham (London: Kegan Paul Trench & Co, 1917-1920).  In this book are two illustrations which depict the quartered arms of early members of the Mansel family:
 
A. On page 284 the Arms of Sir Rice Mansel (1487-1559), blazoned as follows:
 
1. Mansel: Arg. a chevron between three maunches sa.
2. Longe: Gu. a Saltire engrailed or.
3. Scurlage: Arg. three bars gu.
4. Pennard: Sa. a carbuncle arg.
5. Penrhys: Per pale indented arg. and gu.
6. De la Mare: Gu. two lions passant gardant in pale arg.
7. Braose: Barry of six vaire gu. and ermine and az.
8. Fitzwalter: two bends or and arg.
9. Balun: Barry of six indented arg. and gu.
10. Newmarch: Gu. five fusils in fess or.
11. Bruere: Gu. two bends wavy or.
12. Cadifor of Dinawall: Sa. three scaling ladders arg. in honour point a spears crouel arg. gutti de sang; on a chief gu. a tower arg.
13: Kene or Kyne: Ermine a cross patonce gu.
14. Quartering of Kene name not known: Az. a fesse between two chevronels or: three eagles displayed gu.
 
B. On the third page following page 34, the seal of Sir Edward Mansel (about 1529-about 1595) which is not blazoned but whose quarterings are given.  References to be above are inserted or a rudimentary description is given.
 
1. Mansel: same as 1 above
2. Scurlage: same as 3 above
3. Pennard: same as 4 above
4. Bacon: consists of 3 stars
5. Penrice: same as 5 above
6. De Breos (Braose): Lion rampant in the midst of 6 crosses
7. De La Mare: same as 6 above
8. Nicholas: a tower (possibly part of 12 above)
9. Kyme (Keen or Kyne?): same as 13 above
10. Keem?: same as 14 above.
 
Obviously, there are some differences between the two;  however, it did suggest to me that it might be possible to develop some of the maternal lines from the above information, in conjunction with known genealogical data.
 
MARSHALLING CONCEPTS and RULES:
 
Marshalling is the term applied to developing coats of arms by the process of "quartering" and it is governed by some strict rules. 
 
1. All children (male and female) of a man possessing a coat of arms were entitled to display those arms.  Men displayed the arms on a shield;  women, on a lozenge.
 
2. Male children could pass on to their children the right to display the arms of their father.
 
3 A woman could only pass on the right to display arms if she was what is termed a "heraldic heiress."
[A heraldic heiress is a woman who has no surviving brothers, or descendants of brothers.  She could have sisters, in which case all the sisters would be "heraldic co-heiresses"]
 
4. It was not required that one display all the arms which one was entitled to display.  In order to simplify a coat of arms, it was allowable to suppress some arms in the quartering;  however, no arms could be displayed unless all the arms leading to that set of arms were displayed.
 
5. The quarters (which could number many more than 4) were numbered from the upper left hand corner horizontally and then dropping to the left side of the next line horizontally across that line, so that the numbers read as if one was reading a paragraph.
 
6. The paternal arms were always placed in the first quarter (and repeated in the last quarter if necessary to balance the shield).
 
7. The oldest maternal arms were placed next (followed by any other arms acquired from that heraldic heiress--oldest first) and continuing until the newest maternal arms (and any secondary arms acquired with them) were marshalled.
 
SOME HOUSEKEEPING:
 
1.  This is a work in progress, so the data presented has not necessarily been verified.  Various tidbits of information are presented to stimulate interest in the early Mansel maternal lines.
 
2.  It seems best to me to work backward from Sir Edward Mansel, and his father, Sir Rice Mansel, considering each maternal line in turn, whether or not it resulted in a quartering.
 
3. Since I am descended from the Welsh Mansels, I shall render the surname as "Mansel," which is that to which I am accustomed.  There are, of course, variants (Mansell, Maunsell, Mauncell, Mauncil, etc), many of which will occur in the passages quoted.
 
4. Abbreviations such as the following will be used to denote the various quarterings:
 
    R:13Q--the 13th quarter from the arms of Sir Rice Mansel.
    E: 9Q--the 9th quarter from the arms of Sir Edward Mansel.

Part II

PART 2:  THE KENE FAMILY and its Affiliates
 
B. THE CHICHELEY FAMILY [Not quartered]:
 
1. AGNES CHICHELEY:
 
a. As indicated above (see A3c), Agnes Chicheley married William Kene as her second husband, being the widow of one John Tattersall at the time of her second marriage.
 

b. Agnes Chicheley is usually named as the eldest daughter of John Chichely, the Chamberlain of London, and his wife, Margery Knollys.

2. JOHN CHICHELEY and MARGERY KNOLLYS:

a. Among the facts usually given about John Chicheley are the following:
      (1) He was Chamberlain of the City of London, and
      (2) He had twentry-four children.

b. British History Online contains a cite which names John Chicheley as the Chamberlain of the City of London:
 


7 Feb., 22 Henry VI. [A.D. 1443-4], came Thomas, son of Richard Wythyale, late goldsmith, into the Court of the lord the King, before the said Mayor and Aldermen, and acknowledged he had received from John Chicheley, the Chamberlain, divers sums of money accruing to him from his said father, from Alice his mother, and John his brother
From: 'Folios 211-221: May 1443 - ', Calendar of letter-books of the city of London: K: Henry VI (1911), pp. 283-299. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33727. Date accessed: 05 November 2007.

[NOTE:  Unless Thomas Wythyale delayed some 3 to 4 years, the above item negates the contention of  Arthur Collins in his Peerage of England that John Chicheley died in 1440.]

c. On a webpage compiled by Pomala Black, the birth date of John Chicheley is given as about 1391, and his date of death as after 1451.  She also provides a date of 15 February 1412 as the date of his marriage to Margaret Knollys, as she calls her.  She mentions that some sources say that they had 18 children.  Other sources give a number of 24 children, which, if true, raises severe doubts in my mind that Margaret (or Margery) was the mother of all the children.
 


d. The Personal Ancestral File of the Reynolds and Finch family gives the following children for the couple:
 


(1) Agnes Chicheley, female, born about 1412
(2) Henry Chicheley, male, born about 1414, died in 1490
(3) Valentine Chicheley, male,  born about 1415, died in 1462
(4) Cristiane Chicheley, female, born about 1417
(5) Thomas Chicheley, male, born about 1418
(6) John Chicheley, male, born about 1420
(7) Beatirx Chicheley, female, born about 1422
(8) Isabell Chicheley, female, born about 1424
(9) Margaret (or Margery) Chicheley, female, born about 1426
(10) William Chicheley, male, born about 1427
(11) Robert Chicheley, male, born about 1430
(12) Catheryn Chicheley, female, born about 1432
(13) Reginald Chicheley, male, born about 1433
(14) Philippa Chicheley, female, born about 1434
(15) Martin Chicheley, male, born about 1435
(16) Florence Chichely, female, born about 1436
(17) Edith Chicheley, female, born about 1437
(18) Elizabeth Chicheley, female, born about 1438

3. THE HOUSE OF JOHN CHICHELEY:

a. In the book London: Being an Accurate History and Description of the British Metropolis (1805) by David Hughson, LLD there is the following excerpt on page 266, which describes the passing of the house of John Chicheley to the last named daughter above::
 


In HARP LANE was formerly the house of John Cbi-
cheley, chamberlain of London, who was son of William
Chicheley, alderman, brother to William, archdeacon of
Canterbury, and nephew to Sir Robert Chicheley, lord
mayor, as well as to Henry, archbishop of Canterbury.
This John Chicheley had twenty-four children, of whom
Elizabeth, one of the daughters, married Sir Thomas Kiryol,
and had this house as part of her portion. After passing
through various descents, it was ultimately possessed by tho
Bakers Company, who still continue it as their hall.
BAKER's HALL
is a very plain structure, the entrance to which is under a
colonade of Ionic pillars ; the hall or dining room, is ornamented
with a screen of the Composite order, in which are
two arches with handsome carving. The north end is decorated
with three large paintings, the centre of which bears
the arms of the company ; on the right side is Justice, with,
her attributes ; the painting on the left represents St. Clement,
the patron of the company ; they being denominated
in 1380 " Fraternitas sancti Clementis Pistorum" 

b. In a copyrighted article on "The Cook and the Butler" webpage, there is another description of the Chicheley house:
 
History of Bakers’ Hall at Harp Lane
Before the acquisition of their freehold in Harp Lane, The Bakers Company had three (known) halls. They were in Warwick Lane, Dowgate and Basing Lane.

The Hall, described in a contemporary legal document as the ‘great messuage… … with the great entrance’, was a magnificent medieval manor house, purchased in December 1505 in the best part of the City, in the centre of the thriving wine trade. The house is described in the minutest detail in the Company’s minutes and the account book for the period (1491-1548) where every penny lavished on the property is recorded as described by an Elizabethan figure:


“The Hall stood back from the lane, ranged around a little paved courtyard. It was part brick, part timbered plaster, with a tiled roof. A tall gable faced the street to the south, a garden ran alongside to the north, and a wing used as a warehouse screened the rest from Harp Lime. One entered here through great gates on yellow posts with a hanging lantern, and crossed the courtyard to a porch with a chamber above it, jutting out over the door that led into the main assembly hall. This was a spacious room with a gallery at the south end. The walls shone with whitewash, the timber work and panelling were dark red and the chimney piece gilt. Of the windows, barred with iron bars painted red, one, in the gallery, was stained yellow and blazoned with the arms of the Company. Rushes were strewn on the tiled floor, the high table at one end was spread with a thick cloth, and there were other tables, painted, and sideboards, benches draped with covers and padded with cushions, footstools and iron dogs by the hearth. The panelled gallery was hung with pieces of painted cloth and furnished with a trestle table and a long settle.”


Beside the hall lay the garden, flanked by a white-washed wall. It had a well-house, a bowling alley, a stone walk and benches for rest. A gardener came in sometimes for eightpence a day to cut and train the grapevines, and to tend the flowers - rosemary and thyme and eglantine.

John Chicheley was Chamberlain and had twenty-four children one of whom, Lady Elizabeth Boughchier, inherited the property. It was from Lady Elizabeth’s executors that the Bakers purchased the house, moving in after the major refurbishment in April 1506.
 1506 - Celebrating 500 years in Harp Lane - 2006

c. On a website entitled "The Map of Early Modern London" there is a transcription by Melanie Chernyk (Student Research Assistant) and Janelle Jansted (General Editor) of a passage witten by John Stow in his Survey of London (1603):
 


And therefore to begin againe at the Eaſt ende of Towerſtreete, on the South ſide, have ye Beare lane, wherein are many faire houſes, and runneth downe to Thames ſtreete. The next is Sporiar lane, of old time ſo called, but ſince, and of later time named Water lane, becauſe it runneth downe to the Water gate by the Cuſtome houſe in Thames ſtreete: then is there Hart lane for Harpe lane, which likewiſe runneth downe into Thames ſtreete. In this Hart lane is the Bakers Hall, ſometime the dwelling hauſe of Iohn Chichley Chamberlain of London, who was ſonne to William Chichley, Alderman of London, brother to Willian Chichley, Archdeacon of Canterburie, nephew to Robert Chichley, Maior of London, and to Henrie Chichley Archbiſhop of Canterburie

d. This house can be located in the map in Section C7 (Tower Street Ward)

4. WILLIAM CHICHELEY and BEATRIX (or Beatrice) BARRETT (or Barnett)

a. According to a pedigree posted by Pomala Black (see B2c above) William Chicheley was born about 1364 and died in 1425.  He served as Sheriff of London in 11 Henry IV (1409-10).

b. Also according to the Black webpage, William Chicheley married Beatrix Barrett (born about 1368, and died after 1400) in about 1389.  According to WorldConnect Project posted by Jackie Pacholke, she was the daughter of William Barrett, born about 1337 in Hawkhurst, Kent, and his wife, Jane Emplson, born in Towcester, Northamptonshire about 1340.  The Pacholke webpage states that Beatrix Barrett died in London in 1411
 
.

c. Compiler Black reports that according to researcher Kirk Larson, the Chicheleys had at least five children born between 1390 amd 1400, but only the one whose name has been found was John Chicheley, who was reportedly born about 1391.

5. ROBERT CHICHELEY: THE BROTHER OF WILLIAM CHICHELEY:

a. One of the brothers of William Chicheley was a Robert Chicheley,a grocer, who was the Lord Mayor of the City of London in 13 Henry IV (1411-12) and again in 10 Henry V (1421-22).  He married Agnes Apudderfield and had a daughter, Philippa, from which Diana, Princess of Wales, reportedly descended.

b. The following is a quote from the book National History and Views of London and Its Environs, by Charles Frederick Partington (1834), page 150:
 


CHURCH OF ST. STEPHEN'S, WALBROOK.
THIS splendid specimen of architecture, justly esteemed the masterpiece
of the celebrated Sir Christopher Wren, is recorded in Dugdale's
Monastican, to the effect that Eudo, Steward of the household tollenry I.,
presented the living of St. Stephen's Super Walbrook to his newly-
founded monastery of St. John, Colchester, in 1422.
In 1428, Sir Robert Chicheley, grocer, gave to the parish a plot of
ground on the east-side of the water-course, two hundred and eight and
a half feet in length, and sixty feet in breadth, for the purpose of erecting
a new church, and forming a churchyard. In 1429, Sir Robert
Chicheley laid the first stone of the proposed fabric on his own account,
and a second in memory of Sir William Slandon, of whom he had purchased
the ground for the sum of two hundred marks. He also gave
the additional sum of 100/., and bore all the charges of the timber-work,
besides covering the new structure with lead, giving all the timber for
roofing the side aisles, and defraying the expences of carriage.


c. Sir Robert Chicheley also left several houses to the college of Higham Ferrers, according to the following posting on British History Online:
 


Sir Robert Chicheley, a brother of the archbishop, Lord Mayor of London in 1411 and 1421, left by his will several houses in the parish of St. Antholin to the college of Higham Ferrers; he died in 1440.
From: 'Colleges: Higham Ferrers', A History of the County of Northampton: Volume 2 (1906), pp. 177-179. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=40259. Date accessed: 07 November 2007
 
6. HENRY CHICHELEY, BROTHER OF WILLIAM CHICHELEY:

a. From a Wikipedia article, Henry Chicheley was born about 1363 (in asking Pope Eugene IV in 1443 for leave to retire as Archbishop of Canterbury he stated that he was in his eightieth year) in Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire.

b. He was consecrated Bishop of St. David's, which takes in much of Wales, by Pope Gregory XII on 17 June 1408 and then translated to the Archbishopric of Canterbury in 1414--a poition he held until 1443.

c. A surfeit of information is available on him in the Wikipedia article and other sources on the web, so nothing further will be added here.

7. THOMAS CHICHELEY and AGNES PYNCHEON:

a. The parents of the three Chicheley brothers--William, Robert, and Henry--were Thomas Chicheley and his wife, Agnes Pyncheon.

b. According to the Wikipedia article on Henry Chicheley, Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Chicheley was living in Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire as early as 1368, and was mayor of the town in the 1380's.

c. Agnes Pyncheon was reported to be a woman of gentle birth.  The Chicheleys were not rag-tag ruffians from the hinterlands as was suggested by their (probably envious) critics.

8. THE ARMS OF CHICHELEY:
 
a. On a webpage entitled A Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry by James Parker there appears a blazon of the arms of Chicheley impaled with that of the See of Canterbury:
 


Azure, a pastoral staff in pale or, ensigned with a cross pattée argent surmounted by a pall of the last, edged and fringed of the second, charged with four crosses pattée fitchée sable--The Archiepiscopal See of CANTERBURY.
    Impaled with argent, a chevron between three cinquefoils gules--Henry CHICHELEY, Archbishop of Canterbury, 1414-43.

b. This blazon does NOT agree with the 14th quartering of the arms of Sir Rice Mansel which is blazoned: Az. a fesse between two chevronels or: three eagles displayed gu.

c. This is not surprising:  If John Chicheley had at least 8 sons (see B2d above), we would not expect that Agnes Chicheley was an "heraldic heiress."
 

Part III
PART 2:  THE KENE FAMILY and its Affiliates
 
C. THE KNOLLYS FAMILY [Not quartered]

1. SIR THOMAS KNOLLYS (d. 1435) and his wife, JOAN::

a. Margery Knollys, the wife of John Chicheley, was the daughter of Thomas Knollys (see A2a and A2c above), who was a Sheriff of London in 18 Richard II (1394-95) and Mayor London in 1 Henry 1V (1399-1400) and 12 Henry IV (1410-11).  Robert Chichely, brother of John Chicheley, followed John's father-in-law, Thomas Knollys in the mayoral post in 13 Henry IV (1411-12).

b. Various dates are given for the birth of Thomas Knollys, as well as for his death.  If he was Sheriff of London in 1394 he must have been born siginificantly earlier than 1390, which is the date supplied in several pedigrees.  His death is mentioned in "A Short History of the Knolles and Frowick Families," a webpage. researched and compiled by Rosie Bevan, on the copyrighted site, Brookmans Park Newsletter:
 


 
Sir Thomas died in 1435, and was buried with his wife, Joan, in St Antholin’s Church in the north aisle. On their tomb was the following epitaph.
 

“Here lyeth graven undyr this ston
Thomas Knolles, both flesh and bon,
Grocer and Alderman yeres fortye,
Sheriff, and twis Maior truly:
And for he should not ly alone,
here lyeth wyth him his good wyff Jone:
They weren togeder sixty yere,
And nineteen children they had in feer;
Now ben they gon wee them miss:
Christ have there Sowlys to heven bliss. Amen”


2. SIR ROBERT KNOLLYS (d. 1407), the possible father of SIR THOMAS KNOLLYS:

a. Opinions are divided as to whether or not Sir Thomas Knollys was the son of Sir Robert Knollys, a famous knight involved in the Hundred Years War.  According to the article in the Brookmans Park Newsletter:

 
Sir Thomas is said to have been son of Sir Robert Knolles who is mentioned in Froissart's Chronicles and captain in the wars against France, Spain and Brittany under three kings Edward III, Richard II and Henry IV, and was buried with full military honours in Whitefriars, London in 1407.
His arms displayed in the church window at North Mymms suggest, at least, that the family believed themselves descended from him.
 

b. An extensive biography of Sir Robert Knollys is provided in the copyrighted website of The Medieval Combat Society, in which the name of his wife is given as "Beverly."  However, it should be noted that the author of the biography has apparently confused his son, Sir Thomas Knollys, who was married to Joan, with his grandson, Thomas Knollys, who was married to Isabel.
 


3. THOMAS KNOLLYS (d. 1445), brother of MARGERY KNOLLYS:

a. He is buried alongside his father as reported in the article in the Brookmans Park Newsletter:
 
Thomas Knolles, citizen and grocer, son of Sir Thomas, inherited the manor of North Mymms but only enjoyed possession for ten years. He was also a great benefactor to the church of St Antholin in Budge Row, where he was buried beside his father "under a faire marble stone, thus sometime engraven but now quite taken away for the gain of the brasse". The following was the epitaph:
 

Thomas Knolles lyeth undre this ston
And his wyff Isabell, flesh and bone;
They weren togeder nyntene yere,
And x chyldren they had in fere.
His Fader and he to this Chyrch
Many good dedys they did wyrch.
Example by him ye may see
That this world is but vanitie;
For, wheder he be smal or gret, All sall turne to wormy mete.
This seyd Thomas was leyd on Bere
The eighth day the moneth Fevrer,
The date of Jesu Crist truly
An Mcccc five and forty.
Wee may not prey, hertely prey ye
For owr Soulys, Pater Noster and Ave,
The sooner of owr peyne lessid to be,
Grant us the holy trinite. Amen

b. He left a will, which is abstracted in the same article:

Thomas Knolles, in his will dated 7 & 8 February 1445 (PCC Luffnam fo 30, refers to his wife Isabel already deceased; mentions his son Robert (to whom he left the manor of North Mymms), his son Richard, and his son John. He mentions also his daughter Beatrice as a nun at Dartford; his daughter Johanna as wife of William Baron, and a daughter Isabella.
 
c. The article follows the descent of the apparently eldest son, Robert Knollys, whose descendants allied themselves with the Frowick family, but of greater interest to us are the descendants of the second son, Richard.

4. SELECTED DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS KNOLLYS, brother of MARGERY KNOLLYS:
    (from a list on Tudorplace.com)

a. Thomas Knollys (d. 1445) and his wife, Isabel:

     (1) Richard Knollys (b. 1414)

b. Richard Knollys (b. 1414) and his wife, Margaret Doyley

     (1) Margaret Knollys
     (2) Robert Knollys (b. 1435)
 
c. Robert Knollys (b.1435)  and his wife, Elizabeth (?)

     (1) Robert Knollys (1481-1521)

d. Robert Knollys (1481-1521) and his wife, Lettice (or Catherine) Pennystone

     (1) Sir Francis Knollys (about 1514-1596)
     (2) Joan Knollys
     (3) Elizabeth Knollys
 
5. SIR FRANCIS KNOLLYS:

a. He was the Treasurer of the Royal Household under Queen Elizabeth I, and his biography appears on several websites, so it shall not be reproduced here.

b. He was married to Catherine Carey, who was the nominal daughter of Sir William Carey and his wife Mary Boleyn, sister of Queen of Anne Boleyn.  The Careys were married in 1520 after Mary Boleyn returned from France, where she was allegedly the mistress of King Francis I.  After their marriage, but before the marriage of her sister to King Henry VIII, Mary was the mistress of the King, giving rise to speculation that Catherine Carey was not only the cousin of Queen Elizabeth I, but also her half-sister. Support is reportedly given to this allegation by a Latin Dictionary which was once owned by Sir Francis Knollys as reported in the following abstract of an article by Sally Varlow in "Historical Research," volume 80, number 209, pages 315-323, published by Blackwell Publishing in August 2007:
 


A Latin dictionary once owned by Sir Francis Knollys has come to light containing his records of his marriage to Katherine Carey, daughter of Mary Boleyn, and the births of their fourteen children. These previously unpublished details (here transcribed) strengthen the argument that Katherine was an illegitimate child of Henry VIII, born during his affair with Anne Boleyn's sister. Sir Francis's handwritten notes also reveal his wife's remarkably successful series of pregnancies; and the birth date of his daughter Lettice - branded a `she-wolf' by Elizabeth I - who turns out to be younger than is usually claimed when she married Robert Dudley, earl of Leicester.

6. LETTICE KNOLLYS:

a. As noted above, Lettice Knollys was one of the fourteen children of Sir Francis Knollys and Catherine Carey.
 


b.  She was the second wife of Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, who was the earlier of the two favorites of Queen Elizabeth I, and who was proposed by Elizabeth as a possible consort for her cousin, Mary, Queen of Scots, before Mary's disastrous second marriage to Lord Darnley.

c. She was also the mother of Robert Devereaux, Earl of Essex, the later of the two favorites of the Queen, by her first husband, Walter Devereaux. 

[Note: In 2005, a two-part miniseries, "Elizabeth I," starring Helen Mirren, was shown on television.  The first part concentrated on Elizabeth's relationship with the Earl of Leicester, and second part focused on her relationship with the Earl of Essex.  The latter was also the subject of the old Warner Brothers' film, "The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex," starring Bette Davis and Errol Flynn.]

7. THE KNOLLYS ARMS:

a. The Medieval Combat Society gives the following arms for Sir Robert Knollys:

gules, on a chevron argent three roses of the field

b. These arms are not quartered in the arms of the Mansels for two reasons:

     (1) Since Margery Knollys had a brother, Thomas, who had descendants, she was not an "heraldic heiress," and therefore she could not pass on the right to quarter these arms.

     (2) Since Agnes Chicheley was not an "heraldic heiress" either, she could not pass on the right to quarter the Knollys arms. even if they had been transmittable.
 

Part IV
PART 2:  THE KENE FAMILY and its Affiliates
 
D. THE "UNKNOWN" (or possibly KEEM) FAMILY [E:10Q; R:14Q]

a. In both sets or arms, there appears the following quartering:

 Az. a fesse between two chevronels or: three eagles displayed gu.

b. There is no ascribed name for the arms of Sir Rice Mansel, but those of Sir Edward Mansel have the name "Keem."  

c. Since Agnes Chicheley did not transmit the right to quarter any arms, the arms in question must have come into the family either sometime prior to the Chicheley marriage, or with the marriage of Sir George Kene.

d.  In the Index of Kent wills there is an entry for a William Kene, father of Sir George, and paternal grandfather of Edith Kene with the year given as 1467.  In the same index, there is a John Keme from Nettlestead with a date of 1472.  Dying within five years of each other, William Kene and John Keme could have been of the same generation, and so it is possible that John Keme was the maternal grandfather of Edith Kene.. 
 

 

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a. History of Mansell, or Mansel, and of [Other Families], by Robert George Maunsell
b. History of the Family of Maunsell (Mansell, Mansel), by Edward Phillips Statham

They are in agreement, with a few minor differences,  in the most recent generations (which I shall cover in this email), and then diverge.  Mr. Statham gives the more complete pedigree, so I shall follow the one presented by him on pages 224-25 and 230-31 of the second volume of his work:

A. Thomas Maunsell (d. 1643)  (See B3)
He is reported unmarried accoding to the Maunsell book, but may be the one who married Katherine Hunt at St. Dunstan's of the East, London on 13 Jan 1638.  If so, then he was the father of:

1. Thomas Maunsell, christened on 5 Apr 1640 (St. Dunstan's of the East, London)

B. John Maunsell of Chicheley and Thorpe Malsor (d. 19 Oct 1625) (see C1)
Married about 1601 Katherine Ward:

1. Thomas Ward Maunsell, died 1606
2. John Maunsell of Thorpe Malsor, died 2 May 1677 ("The Puritan")
3. THOMAS MAUNSELL of Middle Temple (d. 1643)

C. Thomas Maunsell of Chicheley (buried 8 Apr 1582)
Married on 11 Sep 1567, Agnes, dau of John Morton of Oundle, widow of William Everall of Oundle

1. JOHN MAUNSELL of Chicheley and Thorpe Malsor (d. 19 Oct 1625)
2. Thomas Maunsell of Derryvillane, County Cork, died circa 1646, married Aphra Crayford [Note:  I think this is the Capt Thomas Mansell which figures into the Nancy West/Faith Trueax correspondence]
3. Richard Maunsell of Woodford, died circa 1631 married Dorothy Mordaunt [Note: Thomas Mansel, 1st Baronet Mansel of Margam also married a Mordaunt]
4. Mary, wife of Matthew Conny (or Daniel Comry)
5. Elziabeth wife of (Unknown) Pettit
6. Martha, wife of Henry Edwards

Both books name Richard Maunsell of Chicheley, who died 6 Nov 1559, as the father of Thomas Maunsell.  The disparity arises with regard to the mother and previous generations

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MARGARET FAIRFAX:
 
R.G.Maunsell in his book gives Margaret Fairfax, widow of William Sayre of Worsall as the wife of Richard Mansell (d. 1559) of Chicheley, and then supplies an elaborate ancestry for her--including descent from TWO sons of King Edward III (Lionel, Duke of Clarence and John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster)

2. JOAN POTTER.  

Statham disagrees with him, and he appears to be correct.  Statham says that the wife of that Richard Mansell was Joan, daughter of Thomas Potter of Newport Pagnell.    This agrees with information given by John Maunsell of Woodford ("The Puritan"), brother of the Thomas Maunsell of the Middle Temple, in the Visitation of Essex (1634).

3, A PEDIGREE from The Genealogist, page 12ff:

[NOTE:  I am copying the plain text version, and so the rendering may be a bit off]

PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL,
H formerly of CHICHELEY, Bucks,
and subsequently, after 1622, of THORPE MALSOR, co. Northampton,
enlarged and continued from that entered in
The Visitation of Essex, A.D. 1634. [
N.B.—The part entered in the Visitation is printed in italics.]
ARMS :—Argent, a chevron between three maunches, sable.
RICHARD MAUNSELL, of Chicheley, Bucks, Gent., married
in or before 1538, Joane, da. of Thomas Potter, of Newport Pagnell,
Bucks. He was bur. at Chicheley 6 Nov. 1559.l They had issue
two sons—
I. Thomas Maunsell, of whom below.
II. John Maunsell, of Havarsham, Bucks, 2d son, bap. 22 Sep.
1539, married Dorothy, da. of (—) Smyth, by whom,
besides other issue,1 he had—
Samuell Maunsell, of the Inner Temple, Counsellor
at Law [1608] and, in right of his wife,1 of Cos-
grave, co. Northampton; bap. 15 Sep. 1581 j1 mat.
at Oxford (Mag. Hall) 25 Jan. 1593/4, aged 12 ;
B.A., 23 Feb. 1597/8; Barrister (Midd. Temple),
1608. He married 16211 Nightingale, da. coheir of Edward Furtho, of Cost/rave aforesaid,
by whom he had issue EDWARD MAUNSELL, or
MANSELL, of Cosgrave aforesaid (died 6 Nov.
1696, aged 69), ancestor of the family there
settled.1 He was living 1630,1 but dead in
1635, in or before which year his widow married
Francis LONGUEVILLE, of Cosgrave, who died
about 1646, aged about 60, leaving issue.1 She
was living 1682.1
THOMAS MAUNSELL, of Chicheley afsd., of Newport Pagnell,
Bucks, and of Hulcote, co. Northampton, eldest son of Richard
Maunsell, of Chicheley, by Joane, his wife abovenamed, admitted to
the Middle Temple 1557; succeeded his father 6 Nov. 1559;
married 11 Sep. 1567 1 Agnes, widatv of William Everett [EVEHF.LL],'
da. of Johnl Moreton, both of Oundle, co. Northampton. He was
buried 5 April 1582 at Chicheley, aged 42 and upwards.1 His
will dat. "1581,"pr. 28 Jan. 1582/3 in C.P C. (4 Howe). The will
of his widow dat. 4 July 1602, pr. 29 March 1603, in C.P.C. (
21 Bolein). They had issue, three sons and three daughters—
1 Baker's Korthamptonshire, vol. ii,
p. 132, under " Cosgrave." It is
probable (though not certain) that the dates of baptisms, marriages and
burials there given are from the Parish Register of Chicheley.

PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 13
I. John Maunsell, of ivhom below.
II. Thomas Maunsell, 2d son, now [1634] living in Ireland,
a Sea Captain; born 62 and bap. 7 April 1577 ;l mat.
at Oxford (Mag. Hall) 10 Oct. 1594, "aged 14"; was,
as " Thomas Maunsell, of Chicheley, Bucks, Gent. ; late
of Barnard's Inn;" admitted 14 Aug. 1599 to Gray's
Inn; settled at Derryvillane, co. Cork, in 1609. He
married Aphra, da. of Sir William Craford, of Mongeham
Magna, Kent, by Ann, (d. 26 May 1624), da. of JOHN
NORTON, of Suffolk and London. In the pedigree of
Crayford, of Ampthill, among the additional pedigrees at
the end of the Visit, of Beds, printed by the Harleian
Society, it is said of this " Captaine Thomas Maunsell " [
that he was] " of Vandy [presumably The Vache in
Chalfont St. Giles] Bucks." This apparently must have
been between 1600 and 1609. He, who was living 5 Feb.
1641/2, on which date he was plundered of £2,496 10s.,
is said to have, not long afterwards, died at Gloucester,
on his journey back to Ireland. Admon. in the Consistory
Court of Cork to his sons Thomas and Walter Mansell,
which Thomas Mansell, being then "of Mocollop, co.
Waterford, Gent.," enters into a bond as to the said
admon., 20 April 1661. His widow Aphra was probably
then dead, as most certainly she was in or before the
next year. M.I. at Cahirconlish, co. Limerick.3 They
had issue.4
1 Memoranda in old writing .it Thorpe Malsor, wherein the datea of birth
and in some cases those of baptism of several meml>ers of the Mannsull
family are given.
3 This monument
was erected in 1602 by her son, John Mauusell, who
died 1685. The [dateless] inscription thereon is as under, " Here lyeth the
bodye of Alphra Maunsell, my dear mother, daughter of Sir William
Crayford, of Kent. Here also lyeth my dear wife, Mary Maunsell, daughter
of George Booth, of Cheshire, and of my sister Alphra Peacock, and of
her daughter, Anne Peacock. Erected by me, John Maunsell Esq. and
intended for myself & my family this 17 of October 1662."
4 Of their two daughters (1) Aphra, married George Peacock, of Graig,
co. Limerick, and was buried with her mother; (2) Anno, married Robert
Naylor, Dean of Limerick (1639), maternal uncle to the celebrated Kichard (
Boyle), 1st Earl of Cork; while of the five sons, Kichard, the youngest,
of whose descendants, if any, nothing is known, gave evidence 20 Aug.
1642 as to above mentioned plundering of his father on C Feb. previous. (
I). Thomas Maunsell, the 1st son, was of Mocollop, co. Waterford, and
joint administrator to his father, 20 April 1661. He is said to be ancestor
of the Maunsells of Plassy, Bank Place, Ballywilliam, Oakley Park, Caatle
Park and Spa Hill. (II). Walter Maunsell, the 2d son, was of Mocollop
aforesaid and joint administrator to his father, 20 April 1661, but of his
descendants, if any, nothing is known. (III). Boyle Maunsell, of Gaulstown
or Kilbroney, co. Kilkenny, left male issue which is now extinct. (IV). John
Maunsell, of Ballyvoreen, near Cahirconlish, co. Limerick; born at Knock-
morne, co. Cork, and educated at Lismore, matric. at Dublin (Trin. Coll.).
He married firstly in 1656, Mary, da. of George Booth. She died before
1662 and was buried at Cahirconlish. M.I. He married secondly Jane, da.
and coheir of John Campbell, of Callen, co. Kilkenny. She died 23 Jan.
1674. His will dat. 4 Nov. 1685, pr. 4 Feb. 1685/6 at Dublin. By his 1st 1074. t

 
14 PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL.

III. Richard Maunsell, of the Inner Temple, 3d son, bap. 7 Feb.
1579/80.1 He married, 9 May 1623, at St. Saviour's,
Southwark, Dorothy, widow of Humphrey PHIPPS, of
London, merchant (who was buried at St. Swithin's,
London, 18 Jan. 1620/1), da. of Henry MORDAUNT, of
Thunderley, co. Essex, by Susan, da. of Symon BELKNAP.
He died sip. about 1631. His admon. in C.P.C. 13 Dec.
1631, as "of Woodford, co. Essex, Esq.," granted to his
nephew John Maunsell; the relict, Dorothy, renouncing.
She, probably, married, as a third husband Richard
HASLEWOOD, of Belton, co. Rutland, and was living
1645.
1. MARY, bap. 20 June 1568 ;l married before July 1602, (—)
CONNY, and had issue.
2. ELIZABETH, bap. 3 Sep. 1570 j1 married before July 1602, (—)
PETTIT, and had issue.
3. MARTHA, bap. 3 May 1571;! married 24 March 1590/1,
Henry EDWARDS, and had issue.1
70/7^ MAUNSELL, of Chichtley afsd., afterwards of Bromley,
co. Kent, and of Thorpe Malsor, co. Northampton, eldest son of
Thomas Maungell, of Chicheley, Inj Ai/ncf, his wife, both abovenamed',
born 9 and bap. 12 Dec. 1574;- succeeded his father in April
1582; mat. at Oxford (Mag. Hall) 27 Oct. 1592, aged 17 ; admitted
to the Middle Temple, 1594; Barrister-at-Law.1 He, in 1622,
purchased the estate of Thorpe Malsor.1 He married 25 Jan. 1601/2, *
Katluirine, da. of Richard Ward, of Hurst, co. Berks, Esq. She
died 18 Aug. 1607, aged 28.1 He died 19 Oct. 1625 and was
buried at Bromley, aged 50.1 M.I. Will dat. 12 July 1621, pr.
4 Feb. 1625/6 in C.P.C. (35 Hele). They had issiie, three sons—
I. THOMAS MAUNSELL, born 1602 and died 2 April 1606.1
He is mentioned in the will, dated April 1605 (proved
Feb. 1605/6), of Sir Richard Ward, of Hurst aforesaid,
as " THOMAS WARD MAXCELL, my godson."
II. John Maunsell, of whom below.
III. Thomas Maunxell, of the Middle Temple, 2d surviving son,
born 15 May 1606;1 admitted to the Middle Temple,
1626; Barrister, 1633 ; died unm., 25 Feb. 1643, aged 36,
and was buried at Thorpe Malsor. M.I.
JOHN MAUNSELL, of Woodlord, co. Essex, and Thorpe Malsor
aforesaid, Barrister at Law, 1st surviving son wife he had issue male who inherited the Ballyvoreen, the Ballybrood, and
other estates. By his 2d wife he had Thomas Maunsell, of Drombane,
co. Limerick, his youngest son, born 1 Dee. 1673, who was Sheriff of
co. Limerick 1715, and who in March 1727/8, succeeded to the estate of
Thorpe Malsor, co. Northampton (under the will of his cousin Robert
Maunsell) and died there 27 Sep. 1739 in his 67th year, being ancestor,
in the male line, of the succeeding and now [1902] existing possessors
thereof.
 

 
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 15

Maunsell, of Chieheley, Bromley and Thorpe Malsor, by Katharine,
his wife, both above-named; born 12 March 1604/5 j1 adm. to Lincoln's
Inn, 9 Nov. 1624, his father being then described as "of Chieheley;"
succeeded his father in Oct. 1625; entered his pedigree in the
Visitation of Essex, 1634. He married 8 June 1626,1 Susan, da.
of Humphrey Phipps, of London, merchant, abovenamed, by Dorothy,
da. of Henry MORDAUNT and Susan, his wife, both also abovenamed.
He died 2 "May 1677, aged 73, and was bur. at Thorpe Malsor.
Will dat. 21 May 1669 to 24 Nov. 1675, pr. 30 May 1677 in
C.P.C. (51 Hale)/ His widow died 29 Nov. 1678, and was bur.
at Thorpe Malsor. Will dat. 20 May 1677, pr. 3 Feb. 1678/9, in
C.P.C. (22 King). They had issite, seven sons and five daughters—
I. Robert Maunsell, 1st son in 1(JS4; of ichom below.
II. Charles Maunsell, 3d son, born 14 Feb. 1629,* living 1634;
died young.
III. John Maunsell, of London, merchant,6 3d son, born 24 Aug.
1630.- He married in or before 1664, Martha, da. of (—).
He died at Edmonton, Middx., 12 Dec. 1670.
Will, in which he describes himself as " of the city
of London, Leatherseller," dat. 21 Nov. 1670, pr. in
C.P.C., 9 Jan. 1670/1, 23 June 1680 and 8 June 1689 (
7 Duke). His widow married (Lie. Vic. Gen. 5 Feb.
1671/2, she being then of Bow, co. Middx., about 33)
George DUKE, of Aylesford, co. Kent, " Esq.," then about
55 and a widower. He was living. 1677. She died
before June 1680. They had issue, two sons and two
daughters— (
I). ROBERT MAUNSELL, of whom below. (
II). JOHN MAUNSELL, 2d and youngest son, bom
about 1667 ; living a minor in June 1680, but
of full age in June 1689. He died s.p.,
probably before 1704, as he is not mentioned
in the will of his uncle, Robert Maunsell,
dated 17 Jan. 1704, entailing the family
estates, or in any subsequent wills of any of
the family. (
1). SARAH, born about 1664; died unm. 10 and
was buried 17 Sep. 1684 in her 20th year,
at Thorpe Malsor. M.I. (
2). MARY, 2d and youngest da., born about 1668;
was a minor in June 1680, but of full age
in June 1689. She died unm. and was buried
17 Oct. 1726 at Thorpe Malsor. Will dat.
11 Dec. 1725, pr. in C.P.C., 4 Nov. 1726 (
240 Plymouth).
5 He is described as " merchant" in the monumental inscription to hia
daughter Sarah.
 

 
PEDIGREE OF MAUNSELL. 17

3. SUSAN, 7 born 19 Oct. 1644 - and bap. at Thorpe Malsor;*
mar. there 1 Aug. 1665 Edward HILL, of Rothwell
Manor, co. Northampton, who entered his pedigree in
the Heralds' Visitation of that County, 1681,8 and who
died 1 Aug. 1705, aged 70. She was buried at Rothwell
29 Oct. 1731, aged 88 ; M.I. They had issue, 19 children.
4. ELIZABETH," born 26 June 1646- arid bap. at Thorpe Malsor.6
She is said to have mar. (—) LF.KUI. She died before
6 Jan. 1676/7.
5. MARY/ born 12 Oct. 1648= and bap. at Thorpe Malsor;6
mar. there 4 May 1669, Daniel BLUNDKLL, of St. Mary
le Bow, London, whose will dat. 5 Jan. 1674/5, was
proved 15 May 1679 in C.P.C. (53 King). She was
living 1675, but died before 1704. They had issue.
ROBERT MAUNSELL, of Thorpe Malsor aforesaid, 1st son of
John Maunse.ll, of (he game, by Susan, his wife, both above named;
born 15 Jan. 1628 ;- being ayed •'> yearn adin.
to Lincoln's Inn 3 Nov. 1649; succeeded his father in May 1677.
He married 17 April 1656, at Thorpe Malsor, Judith, da. of Thomas
BROOKE, of Great Oakley, co. Northampton, by Margaret, da. of
Sir John WALTER, Lord Chief Baron of the Exchequer.9 He died
without surviving issue, 27 and was bur. 29 May 1705, at Thorpe
Malsor, aged 77; M.I. Will dat. 19 Jan. 1704/5, to 20 May 1705,
proved 18 July 1705, in C.P.C. (121 Gee). His widow, to whom
for her life he devised his estates, died 27 and was bur. 29 April
1709, at Thorpe Malsor. Will dat. 14 July 1708, proved 29 April
1709 (293 Lane). They had issue—
JOHN MAUNSELL, only son, born 12 and bap. 23 Feb. 1666,
at Thorpe Malsor; died young, 31 Dec. 1677, and was
bur. there; M.I.
SUSAN, died in infancy.
ROBERT MAUNSELL, of Thorpe Malsor aforesaid, 1st son of
John Maunsell, of London, merchant, by Martha, his wife, both
abovenamed, which John was next surviving brother of Robert
Maunsell, the late proprietor. He was born 1 and bap. 23 Jan.
1665, at Thorpe Malsor. He succeeded to that estate on the death,
27 April 1709, of the widow of the said Robert Maunsell (his
uncle) the last possessor. He married, after Jan. 1704/5, his
cousin Catharine, da. of the Rev. John COUBTMAN, D.D., Rector
of Thorpe Malsor, by Catharine, da. of John MAUNSELL, of Thorpe
Malsor, both abovenamed. He died without issue and intestate
10, and was bur. 12 Feb. 1716/7, at Thorpe Malsor, aged 52 ;
M.I. His widow who, for her life, possessed the estate in
8 See
an account of this family of Hill in The Genealogist, N.S., vol. xv (
1899).
9 Betham'
a Baronetage, 1805, vol. v, p. 522, xinder " Brooke."
C
 


dower, was bur. at Thorpe Malsor 1 March 1727/8. After her death
the estate passed, under the will of her husband's uncle, Robert
Maunsell, dat. 19 Jan. 1704/5,10 to the testator's "cousin Thomas
Maunsell (son of cousin John Maunsell, of Ireland, Esq., commonly
called Captain Maunsell) for his life," with rem. to his sons in tail
male. This Thomas Maunsell (who was youngest son of Captain
John Maunsell, a younger son of Thomas, the emigrant to Ireland
in 1609, who was a younger brother of John Maunsell, the purchaser,
in 1622, of the Thorpe Malsor estate) took possession of Thorpe
Malsor accordingly and died there 27 Sep. 1739, in his 67th year,
being ancestor of the Rev. Cecil Henry Maunsell, the present holder." [
To be continued, with copies of extracts from parish registers, wills
and other evidences, on which the additions to the pedigree of 1634 havo
been mostly based.]
 

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The Mansell family which was from Northampton was the Mansells of Thorpe Malsor:
 
If the link comes through, this is a page of monument inscriptions which shows a Thomas Maunsell who is buried in Thorpe Malsor but apparently died in London in 1643, aged 36 (Remember our christening at St. Dunstan's of the East in 1640--father, Thomas Mansell; mother, Katherine Hunt)
 
 
On page 77, this same Thomas Maunsell is referred to as being unmarried (but perhaps the researcher did not know of the marriage in London).  He is the younger son of a John Maunsell, who died in 1625, and also had a brother named John.
 
And then this John Mansell is tied back to the main Mansell line as a descendant of Richard Mansel on pages 39-40 of the same book. This Richard Mansel is the brother of the Sir Rice Mansel whose arms you display on your website, and from which I launched my project.
 
Perhaps your Thomas was raised by his mother, Katharine Hunt, in London until he left to find his future in the colonies.
 

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MUNSELL. Connecticut. Jacob Munsell, Windsor. ( Northampton.) Argent, a chevron between three maundies sable. CREST—A cap of maintenance in flames at the top, ppr. MOTTO—Quod vult, vald6 vult.[Note: the plain text rendering, which can be copied, is not always true to the printed form:  the charge is actually "maunches"]
 
These are, of course, the Mansell (Mansel) arms and motto ("What I want, I truly want")  The indication is that Jacob Munsell came from a family out of Northamptonshire
 
A search for Thomas Mansell in Northampton came up with the following:
 
 
This has several references to Mansells, including one from a John Mansell, LLB, concerning two sermons preached at Northampton.